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Last night was a feeling of power and energy as I walked home after the gym.
Last night there was shock and surprise as the Angel cliffhanger blew me away.
This morning there are bananas and croissants for breakfast, and the Orb playing on my computer.
Not a bad way to start the week.

Date: 2002-03-05 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-sarcasm.livejournal.com
Angel was fucked!!!

Poor Wesley.

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Date: 2002-03-05 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silas7.livejournal.com
Yet another reason why Angel kicks ass this season and Buffy does not.

Clay figres that Sanjin is Connor all grown up, but I'm betting that it's Holtz, mutated by the alien dimension. Any thoughts on that?

Date: 2002-03-05 07:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spriggan.livejournal.com
if sanjin was conner and angel was to kill sanjin, that would fulfill the prophecy. however, sanjin would probably have been more concerned to see holtz dive into the hell dimension with a younger version of himself. interesting, tho...

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Date: 2002-03-05 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silas7.livejournal.com
Sanjin does seem disoriented and confused a lot, due to all his time jumping. Holtz could have told him selective information while in the Hell dimension, just enough to let Connor know that Angel was the cause of all his misery, but not why.

An interesting little temporal twist, and normally I hate temporal sci-fi stuff...

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Date: 2002-03-05 07:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spriggan.livejournal.com
i love the temporal stuff! i still think it's sanjin playing holtz tho, and not the other way around.

Date: 2002-03-05 07:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mr-sarcasm.livejournal.com
I can see the Connor thing. But that wouldn't fit with his reaction to the glowy portal. remember he said he didn't foresee that but it worked anyway. If he was Connor, he'd have known about that.

Honestly, I think he's some shmuck Angel screwed over and just doesn't remember. It's that "It was the worst day of your life, which changed and shaped you forever. But for me, it was only tuesday." I think that's a stronger way to go to reflect how bad Angelus was and provide more angst for the man

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Date: 2002-03-05 07:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silas7.livejournal.com
maybe, Connor was only a baby after all, and wouldn't have much memory. It could also explain (if Sanjin was Holtz) why he pulled him out of time for help. I'll have to review the episodes to see if there were any clues. Or it could be just some shmuck.

And now we have to wait five weeks for new Angel?
FUCKERS!!

Date: 2002-03-05 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liza.livejournal.com
No shit, five weeks?!

Anyway, I assumed that Angel didn't remember his slight to
Sanjin because it hadn't happened yet.

I was all thinking that Holtz was Conner up until the end.
Now I have no idea.

Date: 2002-03-05 07:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spriggan.livejournal.com
yeah, i'm going for that too. sanjin has already expressed confusion over all his dimension jumping, and he has made silly mistakes, so i guess we're supposed to think he's pretty incompetent, and would forget when angel did whatever he did to him.

Date: 2002-03-05 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clayrobeson.livejournal.com
That was my theory as well. Angel hasn't slighted Sanjin yet.

My Sanjin/Connor theory sort of deflated last night when Sanjin didn't get upset at Holtz taking the baby through the portal. Unless Sanjin doesn't KNOW he's Connor. Baby raised in a hell dimension, brought up to hate Angel for no reason whatsoever...

Date: 2002-03-05 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quislibet.livejournal.com
Five weeks!!!

Rarely do I descend to using multiple exclamation points.

I shall be bummed if Wes. is truly dead. I don't suppose Gunn and Fred came and rescued him during the five minute commercial-and-technical-difficulty break that happened right after he was attacked.

I hadn't thought about Sanjin being any one of the other characters; as for the injury Angel did him, J. and I figure either that it's going to happen in the future or else it's something really ridiculous ("He stole my marbles in kindergarten" sort of thing).

We also were assuming that the Hell dimension will warp Connor into some horrible creature that Angel has to kill.

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